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First off, you should all know, that I'm quite *sure* what's going to happen in the 7th book already. I'm not telling anyone though, in case I'm wrong, I won't face that let-down, whilst everyone knows I was wrong. So I will not be stating any of my own theories on it, I will simply state facts and different views on this.

Now..

Will Harry die? Or will he live?
Of couse, only JKR knows for sure, and some people have a good idea... as do I. Like I said above, I'm quite certain I know exactly what's going to happen.

What I have found.. is this evidence, or discouragement?
I was cruising through JKR's site.. and this was a while ago, btw.. and I stumbled over this:


SCREENSHOT! (click me!)
(For those of you who can't read that.. the words I underlined are "Harry is dead")

Now.. to motivate a discussion, I'll give a few both negative and positive views on this.

(the following statements are based solely on this picture, and facts, not on theories of mine, nor otehrs'. Plus, I'm a bit iffy on finding reasons as to why and why not.)

Harry will die, according to this evidence, because:

1) It says plainly out that "Harry is dead"
2) JKR is known to give out hints about the following events in her boosk on her website, so why not in this case?
3) JKR has many times hinted to the fact that Harry will die, not only on her website, but in interviews, etc..
4) How many theories are there on the fact that Harry will die have been made by fans, and not denied by JKR, and supported by this picture?

Harry will live, according to this evidence, because:

1) The paper is in the Rubbish bin, quite possibly meaning she thought about the idea, but threw it away again.
2) The paper is torn, also giving out a signal that this theory is "torn"
3) The sentance isn't completely full, and quite possibly isn't coherent, as it even skips a line.
4) JKR is also known to put out hints on her site, that are wrong, just so we think they're right. (unless of course, she's doing it, so she thinks we get tricked, so we won't believe it, although it's really true.. confusing, yes.)

Now start discussing this.. it's a very interesting topic, so you better get to it, before I whip you <3

(I migth not participate in this discusson, unless you ahve questions.. I like to observe :lol: )

Wow I thought that was intersting. ^_^

I have always believed that Harry will die, and so does my father. We have many dicussions about it and have talked for hours on end about it. Here a bit of my input..

I believe that JKR has said that the seventh book will be the last book. How would a series called "Harry Potter" or any other series beginning with a name, could possibly end? Well, you kill the main character of course. Also, the prophecy states a strong point that will lead to a final battle.

I have many opinions on it, and if anyone would like me to talk more, just say because you know me. :D I can talk for hours. xD

The paper in the dustbin thing isn't all that convincing because you can clearly see that there's a whole line in between the words "Harry" and "dead". That said, Voldemort is going to die, right? It's poetic (novelistic?) justice after all. Given the strength of his connection with Harry, the idea that both will be bumped off in a double whammy satisfies my sense of symmetry. So even though I don't know if that's going to happen, it would make me happy. Specially since i don't even like Harry. :P

What if it turns out to be happily ever after, Voldy is dead and Harry and GInny go on to lie a happy life. But like the next chapter is when they are old and its like Ginny visiting Harry's grave, she could just make him die of natural causes.

It's funny, because I was talking to my dad about this topic last night. The picture doesn't sell me on the thought that harry will die, though it is kind of convincing. The reason that I think Harry will die is because it's one of the only ways the book can end. Also, it's the only ending that will make the whole series poetically beautiful, and worthwhile. (And obviously I feel very passionately about it...lol) Voldemort also has to die, of course, or else the series would be unfinished. But, think about it, if Harry dies at the end, defending the whole magical community, it will make the series complete and meaningful, and I believe it just has to happen.. I may be wrong, though.

I think he'll die too, but kill Voldemort so everyone will be happy. I mean, if he lived, then everyone would be dying to know what happens next and the world's thirst for more series' would never be satisfied.

Keep in mind, we'll hear what happens to everyone in the future, because she said she's going to write something in the end that tells us what happened to the living characters in the future.

AWW!If Harry dies, I am never going to watch any of its movies when it premieres. But anyway, JKR says that she does not plan on writing another book, so yea, I guess it is the end of Harry....*sobs*

AWW!If Harry dies, I am never going to watch any of its movies when it premieres. But anyway, JKR says that she does not plan on writing another book, so yea, I guess it is the end of Harry....*sobs*

<OOC:Sorry I double post.....I was in a hurry>

She plans on continuing to write, but under a different name, and she'll be writing a young childrens book series, so no one will know it's her.

First, why should she continue writing under a different name? I can't really figure out the logic in it.. But oh well.

And about the trash bin, I thought the same when I saw the letter or whatever it is: you can't read the whole sentence. Just a few words here and there. Which means that nothing is really pointing in the direction of Harry dying.
But then again, the serie would really have a good ending if he actually died. And it would be typically Rowling to end the last book like that. -Leaving people with the same wondering thought as at the ending of each book "what now?!"

If Voldemort survives I'm not sure if it will surprise me or not.. Because she is likely to do something weird like that.

But all I know for sure, personally, is that it's going to be quite unpredictable.

kay, I think She's just trying to confuse us so that when we find out what really happens there will be utter chaos. Everyone will freak, and wonder why it happend. I'll probably cry no matter who dies, myself.

Also either way, I want her to write a series about The Maruaders period. I love it... The flashbacks and everything. I want to know what sirius and Remus and all were like in their day. Doesnt everyone else?

I'll repeat, for Justin's reply:
She won't be writing any more books about the Harry Potter series, at all. She is going to start writing childrens novels (Harry Potter series are technically teenage novels) under a different name.

And again.. I have to repeat myself, for Rikke:
She is going to make a follow-up in the 7th Harry Potter book, describing to us, what happened to the characters, after the whole school-thing ended. So we won't be wondering "what now?!".

huh, there are only 4 endings:

1° Voldemort dies, Harry dies

2° Voldemort dies, Harry lives

3° Voldemort lives, Harry dies

4° Voldemort lives, Harry lives

now, let's see what each causes:

1° That would make the novel a classical romantic, tought it would make some fans suffer a lot...

2° That would make the novel lose the point, this is what everyone wishes or desires tought it would kill the serie.

3° This can happen, but i think it won't happen, and if happens will be with a concequence, like Voldemort loosing all his powers or something like.

4° this can happen, not likely tought, this would leave the serie unfinished or with a fan fic ending for everyone, again find highly unlikely that JKR does this.

counclusion: We can't predict what will happen yet, I place my bet on the Vold and Harry death, since this would glorify the novel as romantic and might make it a classic of literature.

I want Harry to live, what if Ron and Hermione sacrifice their lives for Harry?

I have always felt that Harry will die. A lot of speculation has surrounded the fact that the book has a lot of Christian elements to it. Whether or not you are Christian is irrelevant if you understand the basis of Christianity. Thoughts?

I see whay you are saying. You know, the whole savior dieing to save the world thing. Yeah, it is possible for harry to die and in the process rid the world of the evil that is You Know Who.

Intriguing, isn't it? I would have to say that both of them would die after reading this whole thread. I could see that it wouldn't make sense if Harry was to live in the ending and Voldemort dies, although that would make a lot of die hard Harry fanatics out there rejoice. The letter in the website was cut off so that it doesn't make much sense. "-is dead" might pertain to a different character if ever it is a clue. But all in all, I still think both of them would die in the end.

Christianity?? C'mon more than just christianity has entered there, Celtic beliefs, Kharma in certain degree, not to say the tons of mythical creatures that each have a symbol, like the Griffin, the Dragon, the Werewolf, the Kraken (yeah the giagant squid is a kraken) The phoenix (it might say that Dumbledore will reborn or revive, but this is only 1 idea I have not a lot of true there...) And so on.

BTW, do you everyone think that dumbledore will stay death or will return by an odd reason to life?

Gut feeling is that both die, but we shall see.

The squid is too nice to be a kraken!

'If you know the basis of Christianity'--the basis of Christianity meaning to incorporate elements from pretty much every known Western thought system in a vague attempt to appeal to everyone? You can find symbolism in anything, even anti-religious propaganda. You'll have to provide me with specific recurring motifs, though, if you want to convince me on that, Crystal.

It seems that Harry will die, but I think on the other hand it would be very difficult to write the book without Harry alive. The vast majority, if not all, of the books are written in third-person semi-omniscient focused on Harry, so it wouldn't make any sense in the craft for him to die.

As for Christianity, only so much as there will necessarily be an influence of Christianity on anything coming out of Western culture. If you want to read something with definite Christian imagery/influences, go back a few decades and check out Narnia, sha?

Hmm... I heard that J.K. Rowling got her ideas from Narnia... And if Narnia is somehow connected to Christianity, then it is very much possible that HP is too. I bet in the end Harry is going to sacrifice himself for the good of mankind. And him dying would make the series make more sense since its all about love and sacrificing and all that jazz. ^_^

I'm not sure why people would think this. I'm probably wrong, but I dont think Rowling could kill off her main character in an extremely successful children/young adult series. I know many young kids who read these books (I'm sure you do too) and I just think it seems to cruel. If she's going to do it, its gonna be very carefully and not as harsh as some of her other deaths (ie. Series Black).

I'm not trying to convince anyone. Just putting my two cents in.

I have read Narnia. In fact, I did my senior English research paper on the series. <_<

Ok, then "The odd behaving Kraken" would be a better term for it... ^^ lol

From my perspective the answer was simple, but I love all your thoughts. I thought that Harry would die rather early in the book, but instead of him dying and the book is over, i think we will follow him in death to beyond the veil, in the underworld.
Why I think this:
- Because Evanna Lynch said so (Luna Lovegood, squee)
- Because going to the underworld is part of the Hero's journey, ie. Hercules, The Odyssey.
- Because that's how Dumpledore killed the Horcrux in the ring (And his hand) by sticking it half way in the veil, so harry will find all the Horcruxes and jump through the veil, then he will kill Voldy somehow.
Uhhh...yeah, that's my thoughts.

O.o I didn't understood that, will that place where Sirus died appear again? or you mean another way of veil?

Nice idea though, I don't believe in it a lot, because it would be like messing the whole novel saying there's an afterlife and that you can keep your free will there...

I agree. You can find underlying theme to anything. But, All I know is that I would mourn for a long time if harry was to die...

I think hurted more the death of Dumbledore than what would hurt the death of Harry... (or at least to me...)

I've just got a little point no one of us had cached before... Neville factor.

If the profecy is truth but missinterpreted by the readers, then all would point to Harry, but there's a chance that Neville is the one that will either die or kill Voldemort. what do you think about this?

(((Ooops man, you double posted.... Thats a Wr no no...)))

There is that chance, and I will jump on it if it means that Harry lives. :)

(Err sorry for the double post but no one had posted in a good deal of time and I felt the urge to say it lol ^^! Again sorry for that.)

Harry dies. Why? Because otherwise Draco dies, and that's bad.